From:
"Mike Teague" <yngwie@triax.com>
Sent: 6/12/2000 7:28:11 PM
To:
gpsstash@egroups.com
Cc:
"David J. Ulmer" <daveulmer@ccwebster.net>
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Re: [gpsstash] Problems with GeoCaching...


I also agree the goal is fun, not rules, thats why there are no rules except
"take something, leave something, write it in the logbook".. the point that
was made recently though is that the game of Geocaching is by definition
finding a container at a specific location that is filled with treasures (or
even no treasure. remember the idea of a logbook-only stash). Finding an
object that requires a GPS to find. THAT'S THE FUN. cyberstashing and
wonderts(?) are a different thing altogether... You seem to want an activity
that's all-encompassing -- everything rolled into one.. It cant be. It's
gotta stay simple.. Remember the _original_ idea? "GPS Stash Hunting -- To
celebrate the demise of SA".. Now you want people going out to landmarks
getting passwords -- oh yeah. that's no good anymore so now they'll just
out to places, or areas, maybe not even at any specific location! What is
the point? Sightseeing? What's that got to do with the _original_ idea - "to
celebrate the demise of SA"? If you want to go find things with clues,
you've got letterboxing.. If ya wanna navigate with map and compass for the
fun of it, you've got orienteering.. what is it actually that you want to do
and what makes it unique?

Let GPS Stash Hunting (Geocaching) run its course. I personally don't care
if new technology comes out and makes it obsolete in 2 years, or if it
leaves out urban areas, or indoors, that a GPS is required, etc etc.. I'm
not concerned any percieved limitations... When the fun of burying a bucket
in the forest and having people find it with their GPS's wears off, then
it's finished.. At that time, we'll all be ready for a new game. Redesign
it THEN... In the meantime, there are plenty of people that like it the way
it is, and dont see the need for change...

There are people still planning their good old-fashioned stashes, that
haven't had the chance to go put them out there yet, much less the chance to
actually hunt for one, and now all of a sudden the inventor of the game says
the game sucks and was a bad idea to start with! Go figure!


Mike Teague - http://www.triax.com/yngwie
GPS Stash Hunt (Geocache) Homepage - http://www.triax.com/yngwie/gps.html


-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Ulmer
To: gpsstash@egroups.com
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [gpsstash] Problems with GeoCaching...


>Harry, you're right the goal is fun, not rules!! I just want the rule of
>having a stash at a location removed from the game. I want to emphasize the
>Location not the stuff. I think the system can include all kinds of games,
>codewords, clues, and all.
>
>Mike, the difference between Wonderts and a waypoint list is that the
>Wonderts are engineered by someone to provide you with an adventure.
Getting
>to Williams Lake is just as rewarding with or without the stash. Some
>Wonderts are rewarding at the location, others are rewarding for just being
>able to get there.
>
>
>Dave...
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "HarryO"
>To: "GPS GPS"
>Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:25 PM
>Subject: [gpsstash] Problems with GeoCaching...
>
>
>> Hi Cachers
>>
>> I joined the list just recently after learning of it from
>> Maps_L I was totally flipped out by this idea , I think it's fantastic.
>>
>> I think all the problems I have seen come up can easily be solved by
>> using our creativity.
>> Urban caches can work, of course not everywhere. But they can work. Who
>> says they have to be a one stop event. I see getting businesses involved.
>> How about a cache at a newspaper stand.
>>
>> I idea of a cache, a letterbox, a codeword. They all can be combined into
>> a little
>> game in a local area. make the search a hunt, give someone who wants to
>> do this a few hours of fun not just a long drive for one place..
>>
>> Of course, this is not as easy to set up, but I feel that the potential
>> of this idea
>> goes way beyond one simple thought or concept.
>>
>> The Model A was an idea now we have Mercedes C Class. Both are
>> automobiles.
>> Get my idea. I hope so..
>>
>> Lets not look at the problems lets go for the answers...
>>
>> Dave's ideas of Wonderts is a wonderful example.
>> Wonderts with predetermined clues.
>>
>> Say you bring someone to a historic building.
>> There is usually a Bronze plaque that is not going anywhere.
>>
>> A simple alpha substitution code on what written might give the next
>> location.
>> And I guarantee if you think about it.. Somewhere you will find a place
>> to have a cache..
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> Let all just have FUN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Imagination is the highest kite that one can fly.
>> -Lauren Bacall
>>
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