From:
"Jeremy Irish" <jeremy@theirish.com>
Sent: 9/12/2000 9:26:36 PM
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RE: [gpsstash] New features on Geocaching.com


Works for me. Your letterboxes now link direct to your site (or they
should - I couldn't reach mapsurfer.com to test it).

I was sort of wondering about the copyright issues (and why the North
America site was using frames to link to letterbox pages). Linking to the
hint pages is fine, which is why I asked you guys.

I do respect individual ownership (and copyright protection). I personally
believe it detracts from the game, but I don't want to get into any debates
from times past. As long as people can find the clues easily, that works for
me.

As for banner advertising, I'll never even hope to recoop the costs of
working on this project, but if I can at least pay for bandwidth with any
kind of revenue I get - it is preferable than asking for money. This is a
pet project (and hobby). Hobbies don't make any money.

I also won't plague the site with advertising - I'll only use those
companies that I find provide a service to the group - and will make it
complementary to the site.

My ultimate goal is to increase awareness of both games - letterboxing and
gps stashing. This can best be done by freely sharing information to all
game players. Hopefully you'll all find the way I present the information is
easy to use. If not, please let me know!

Jeremy
Webmaster, Geocaching.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Hall [mailto:randy@mapsurfer.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 6:29 PM
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Cc: lbna-technical@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [gpsstash] New features on Geocaching.com




> On a side topic, Letterboxing and GPS stash hunt games are very similar in
> nature. Since geocaching is a pretty broad term, does anyone object to
> merging the two games together under the Geocaching name? The more
back-end
> work I do on geocaching.com the more similar they become.
>
> Any objections? Will there be confusion?

I would work with the letterboxing webmasters on this one. I would
point out that you are violating the copyrights of the clue writers
by what you appear to be doing (well you're violating my copyright
anyway :-))

I particularly object to my clues being republished on your web site
along with banner advertising, and somewhat object to their republishing
without my permission. I'm sure its something that can be worked out
one way or another, but in no way with advertising of any form (I
speak for myself, not all clue writers, of course, who I'm sure will
have views all over the spectrum on this one). The LbNA people
are very against this sort of thing, though, and remember the LbNA
webmasters cannot speak for the individual clue writers (we had a
big fight about this a few years ago, so alot of people are quite
sensitive to it, as you can see :-).

Again, the games are similar, and there prolly is a good way to work
together, but work together before republishing copyrighted stuff
would be my advice, and for now, please provide a link to my clues,
not the copy. Thx.

Cheers,
--
randy "the mapsurfer"
http://www.mapsurfer.com

The gpsstash page
http://www.geocaching.com
The GPS Stash Hunt page.
http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/gps.html

GPS Stash Hunt FAQ :
THE FAQ
http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/stashfaq.txt


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