From:
"Mike Teague" <yngwie@triax.com>
Sent: 2/7/2001 6:53:29 PM
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Re: [gpsstash] Re: Waypoints / New Mailing list


I dont see the harm in releasing the cache data either..

So what, someone takes coordinates and tries to come up with their own
site... competition is good, and we'd all see who runs the better site... I
put my money on Jeremy...

I have no problem with jeremy copyrighting and threatening to sue for his
own original content on the site, but the coordinates and such -- freely
contributed by geocachers, are (or should be) free to all to use, re-use,
publish, make money off of, etc. GNU style...





Mike Teague - http://www.triax.com/yngwie



----- Original Message -----
From: "The Mad Phishmonger"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [gpsstash] Re: Waypoints / New Mailing list


> Thus Spoke Edward:
> > Actually, Jeremy did set up www.geocaching.com (and several variations),
and
> > he wrote all of the scripts to obtain the cache information, and made
the
> > single location for looking up caches and information about them. He
owns
> > the server that the website resides on, and maintains it. HE DOES OWN
IT!
> > He did not input all of the data (since he did not place all of the
caches),
> > but he does own the information, and the server on which it resides.
>
> Yeah, I guess he does have a legal right to say he owns the
> data, I mean he is quick to threaten a lawsuit right? I think he
> owes it to the geostashing community to make the data available
> as a generic database.
>
> > His comment may not have been the best one that could possibly be made,
but
> > the point was a good one. Jeremy went forward at a very early time to
> > create this central location. Anybody else can feel free to make a
website
> > to keep the caches and cache information, but since geocaching.com was
made
> > very near the beginning, it is not as likely that the site will grow
> > quickly. Jeremy has done several things to help the people who
participate
> > in geocaching. Although he did not want to do it immediately, Jeremy
> > removed the advertisements that many people complained about on the
site.
> > He designed (and apparently has distributed) the geocaching t-shirts.
>
> For some reason people think that the only use for the geocache
> database will be for someone to create a competing website. What
> about the fellow writing a palm application for geocaching. I
> just want it for personal uses. And as I recall Jeremy took the
> ads off because they weren't generating much money anyway.
> Jeremy has put a lot of work into making a great site, I don't
> see it becoming obselete after its data (which is already
> available) is released in a different format. Don't get me
> wrong, I am glad that Jeremy has created such a functional site.
> My comments earlier were perhaps uncalled for, I'm just
> frustrated by what seems to me to be a trivial matter.
>
> >
> --
> phishmonger@frop.net
> Burned his house and they spent the night
> Smoke rose thick and black...
> Now Henry Parsons' got no place to stay
> If he ever gets the nerve, to come back.
> --"Henry Parsons Died" Widespread Panic
>
>
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> The GPS Stash Hunt page.
> http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/gps.html
>
> GeoCache HQ
> http://www.braveheart.com.au
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