"Eoghan" <>
Sent: 2/9/2001 9:49:09 AM

Re: public domain

I don't think anyone has even suggested "copyrighting coordinates".
There's a big difference between that and creating a proprietary
database of public information. You can copyright dictionaries (but
not common words), atlases (but not places), etc.

--- In gpsstash@y..., Dave Seaton wrote:
> released into the public domain.
> Assuming the idea of copyrighting coordinates was sane in the first
> you cannot copyright these because I have just placed them in the
> domain.

And while I've got my fingers typing in flame mode, I'll put in my 2
cents on the whole issue of and its relation to the
rapidly developing sport of geocaching. You don't have to like the
site (I do) or what Jeremy's doing (I do). This sport will grow on
its own. Once its started it has a life of its own. Someone willing
to put a lot of work in can help to give direction to its early
stages but can never be in control of it. When you go to his site and
put your coordinates in, you're doing it voluntarily. No one is
coercing you. You are contributing to HIS database, which he has
every right to share in whatever way he likes. If you don't like it,
don't contribute. Start an optional one. As the sport grows this is
likely to be exactly what happens. will only survive
to the extent that people like it. Likely, there will be other sites
and lists that crop up with reviews of the various sites and
recommendations, etc. In this way, geocaching is no different from
any other activity or interest that grows in popularity. I can
understand the desire for a single free, easily accessible, public
database of every cache in existence but this is really a pipe dream.
Not everyone could agree on every aspect of how it should be
implemented and not everyone would even want their caches listed in
it. If you waited for a concensus nothing would get done. Someone has
simply taken the initiave to do something the way they want it while
being as open minded as possible to other peoples suggestions. Again,
like lots of other hobbies, and perhaps more so by intention, this
one bleeds across lines into several other areas (geomatics, hiking,
treasure hunting, problem solving, orienteering, etc) and will defy
any attempt to canonize it. The discussion of micro caches, virtual
caches, and offset caches are examples. My suggestion is to relax and
enjoy it for whatever reasons you're drawn to it. If you want more
than what is being offered or you have qualms with _how_ it's being
offered, go ahead and do it your own way. There's nothing wrong with
the increasing diversity of opinion within this sport. Feel free to
flame me, I deserve it (and it makes my point).