Matt Stum <>
Sent: 5/30/2001 5:08:53 PM

Re: [gpsstash] Censorship, Criticism, and Open Discussion (Was: The Death...)

>does anyone know how many people are still on this list?
>i get about one msg a week or so it seems. perhaps its no longer
>necessary(tis list)? GEO is much more active obviously...
>i guess i'm going to unsub soon..

I'm here... I was one of the "founding members" of caching, etc.
This is the only list I'm subscribed to.

All of the politics and crap have turned me off, so I'm kind of glad
the traffic here isn't real high.

I'm definitely not a fan of the "glitzy" veneer of and
preferred the more "underground" feel of when Mike Teague and I were
running two of the main data sources (we sure as hell didn't have the
slightest thought about copyrighting the data!! what a bunch of crap)

As for the "death" of geocaching if goes under, I'm
more than willing to revive my old data if people are willing. To be
honest, when Dave Ulmer first started this whole thing and Mike and
I began compiling the data I envisioned a simple list of cryptic numbers,
no descriptions, no nothing. That was the *whole point*!... SA got
turned off and we could locate items using only numbers. If you need
an extended description, join the Letterboxing folks (which is really cool
too!). Even my own distance calculator was written with conflicting
emotions because it should be easy enough to recognize if a coord is in
your "neighborhood".

Well, anyway, that's my disorganized rant... :) Back to lurking...
Matt Stum