From:
"gary" <gsellani@accesscom.com>
Sent: 6/16/2001 6:40:02 PM
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RE: [gpsstash] Approach Codes, Enjoy!!


And if you have to s*** it the woods, you never bushwhack a bit off the
trail to get some privacy. Nope, that would be environmental damage. In
fact, whizzing in the woods is an acid spill of sorts. Yeah, better to hold
it. In fact, never leave the house. Better yet, just off yourself and stop
consuming air, water, creating pollution, etc. Oh, if only I were never
born, then I wouldn't pollute.

Get a grip on it people. Grass grows back. Diablo (the Ape GPS site) has
cattle grazing on it. Yeah, no grass getting damaged there. Bare dirt,
unless rutted, doesn't erode significantly. The rain comes along, people
stop hiking, and the grass grows back.

If a new trail is created, then retire the cache. Simple solution. No new
game needs to be invented.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Ulmer [mailto:daveulmer@ccwebster.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:17 PM
> To: gpsstash@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gpsstash] Approach Codes, Enjoy!!
>
>
>
> Well, I only know from the five caches that I placed, and the other few
> that I visited. There was noticable effect on three of my five. On two
> occasions I visited other peoples caches that were accessable by
> switchback trails. From my approach, I was unaware of the switchback
> trails, there were no trail maps available, I ended up bushwhacking to
> get to the cache then returning by the trail. I figure that if you
> multiply my experiences by many thousands, then we got a problem. Better
> to fix it early in the game than to wait until there is a war with the
> Sierra Club or someone else.
>
> Dave...
>
>
>
> Mike Teague wrote:
> >
> > I'd like for you to point out any place anywhere where
> geocaching has caused
> > environmental damage...
> >
> > (other than your own activities, of course... You were the one
> digging holes
> > in the ground to bury your original buckets, and the one
> trespassing on APE
> > # 2 )
> >
> > Mike Teague -- http://home.earthlink.net/~kvuo/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Ulmer"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gpsstash] Approach Codes, Enjoy!!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > gary wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > You are free to invent whatever system you want. Getting
> someone to use
> > it
> > > > is another matter. [Case is point: Apple market share down to 5%,
> > laserdisc,
> > > > betamax, etc. ]
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are so right. At least I will be able to sleep at night knowing I
> > > did my best to provide a means to eliminate much of the environmental
> > > damage that geocaching can do.
> > >
> > > Dave...
> > >
> > > The gpsstash page
> > > http://www.geocaching.com
> > > The GPS Stash Hunt page.
> > > http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/gps.html
> > >
> > > GeoCache HQ
> > > http://www.braveheart.com.au
> > > GPS Stash Hunt FAQ :
> > > http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/stashfaq.txt
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
>
> The gpsstash page
> http://www.geocaching.com
> The GPS Stash Hunt page.
> http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/gps.html
>
> GeoCache HQ
> http://www.braveheart.com.au
> GPS Stash Hunt FAQ :
> http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/stashfaq.txt
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The GPS Stash Hunt page.
http://www.triax.com/~yngwie/gps.html

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http://www.braveheart.com.au
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