From:
Alan Klein <alank2us2002@yahoo.com>
Sent: 3/19/2002 11:19:47 PM
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Re: [gpsstash] "the Data" & "Geocaching" (long post)


If I understand you right, what you're saying is that
because the forums is in the public domain, I have no
"ownership" either. OK. But what do you mean when
you said,"...but can sure back fire in ones face as
well as in the $$$."?

Alan

--- Navicache wrote:
> It is too late to "Prevent" multi posting of yours
> or anyone elses caches, reason being that it was
> publicly placed on that forum that anyone can use
> the word and do with it as they wish. So trade mark
> or no trade mark giving permission and or blessing
> may still have no touch on ownership, but can sure
> back fire in ones face as well as in the $$$.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Klein
> To: gpsstash@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [gpsstash] "the Data" & "Geocaching"
> (long post)
>
>
> Sorry, but the pictures and other comments I post
> to
> geocache.com belong to me not Jeremy. That
> includes
> whether I post them to my cache or someone elses.
> The
> fact I submitted them to geocaching.com for
> posting
> there does not transfer ownership to
> geocaching.com.
> I have not agreed to any "terms of service" which,
> by
> the way, I have yet to find. Nor have I entered
> into
> any contract with geocache.com. If I choose to
> post
> my cache with its particular written text as well
> as
> coordinates, or to "export" my pictures or copy my
> log
> to another site, that's my business, not Jeremy's.
>
> And that includes current caches.
>
> I suspect however that preventing this kind of
> multi-posting will be coming as geocaching.com
> attempts to maximize its profits and hold on the
> sport. Once that hapens there will be mandatory
> fees
> for membership, etc.
>
> Alan
>
> --- Eoghan wrote:
> > But
> > these apply only to the ones people submitted
> with
> > these expectations or
> > under Groundspeak's terms. There are still those
> > which were NOT submitted
> > with that in mind or which were submitted before
> > that approach was clearly
> > spelled out, or the very very few which were
> > completely public and were
> > imported into the database in the very
> beginning.
> > The moral grounds for the
> > objection that these not be included is still
> valid
> > but becomes of more and
> > more marginal importance as these caches
> disappear
> > and as the total number
> > of caches in the database makes them
> insignificant.
> > ... With the added functionality of the
> > site, each cache has a
> > large amount of associated data - logs,
> pictures,
> > maps, clues, ROT13
> > encoded spoilers, etc. Most of this stuff was
> > clearly submitted to
> > geocaching alone and none of us has any claim at
> all
> > on this data.
> > ...> -Eoghan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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