"sept1c_tank" <>
Sent: 4/18/2006 10:37:15 PM

Re: Thank you, Dave Ulmer, for your wacky idea.

I guess there may still be some hard feelings between Jeremy and
Dave Ulmer; in a recent forum post, Jeremy said, referring to Dave
Ulmer, "He abandoned geocaching to be raised by wolves…"

--- In, "Seth! Leary" wrote:
> I don't think that there is -currently- any drama regarding Dave
> My understanding is that, at various times a few years ago, things
may have
> been said/done by both parties that caused some mutual alienation.
> in the time that I have spent with the guys at the website and
with Dave, I
> have gotten the distinct impression that it was mostly
miscommunication and
> that there remain few, if any, hard feelings. I suspect that
Dave's name has
> not been restored to the website in part because there have just
been too
> many other things to do. Plus, there could be some legal reasons
why they
> need to keep it somewhat anonymous, for self-protection.
> As far as I know, I'm the only person who has gone geocaching with
both Dave
> and Jeremy. (I don't believe they have ever met one another,
either.) They
> are both really nice guys and each deserve heaps of credit for the
> and success of the game.
> Cheers,
> Seth!
> "The history of our game is rich and at times dramatic.
Apparently, the
> drama continues over at They happily promote your video
and Jack
> Peters' book, The Complete Idiot's guide to Geocaching, both
giving credit
> to Ulmer for the first cache hide, they but refer to Ulmer as "a
someone" in
> their own brief history published on their site."