"Ronald Gerth" <>
Sent: 6/24/2007 2:26:34 PM

[GPSstash] Re: Geooglecaching

From what I can see you can go for a long time without ever seeing another ugly google ad on and all you have to do is break out the wallet and pay the man up front. I have several sites that I hit for free and figure the price of freedom is having some ad flash across the screen and also have several sites I pay for access to (ESPN and GC to name a couple) and then I ususally do not get hit with ads. I do not mind some banner ad tucked away in a corner or running across the top of the screen since I am conditioned to ignore those but I do hate pop ups. I can live with banners, if he goes to the pop up extreme or those ads that expand when the mouse goes over them then I am gonna start to get mad. For now hopefully I never see a pop up ad or one of those other ads.


--- On Sun 06/24, sept1c_tank < > wrote:
From: sept1c_tank [mailto:]
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:55:26 -0000
Subject: [GPSstash] Re: Geooglecaching

Thanks Scout, for wording it so elegantly. I know as well as the

next guy that the efforts of are not cheap. And I understand

that Jeremy has every right to persue profit; more power to him.

It does seem to raise that old red flag you to which you allude, when

the bannerman suddenly changes tack and abandons his former priority

of website cosmetics and utilities.

The Google ads are ugly and pedestrian. There must be a better way

to encourage premium memberships and to increase profits than to

bombard the site with crap.

--- In, "Scout" wrote:


> "Art Pennington" wrote:

> > We need to remember,the purpose of business in America is to

> > generate a profit for the owners.

> >

> > I wonder what the response would be if suddenly the site shut down

> > because it could no longer turn a profit. Or worse, it was sold to

> > someone who does not fully appreciate geocaching.


> Don't confuse the goals of Groundspeak, Inc., with the needs of the

> geocaching hobby itself. Open source and distributed processing


> be ways to address the risks you raise.


> That is why, in the early days, some people wanted geocaching to


> an open database, so the costs and efforts and load could be

> distributed, reducing the burden on any individual and eliminating


> risk of losing it all if one company went bankrupt or turned evil.


> Instead, Jeremy Irish decided to take geocaching private, going

> commercial in order to raise the money to finance his business,

> actively resisting those who tried to keep geocaching open. It was


> right to act this way, but it didn't have to be this way. We didn't

> have to end up in a situation where one company can say, in effect,

> keep paying us or maybe all your data might get lost. But that's


> we find ourselves anyway.


> --

> Scout


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