From:	"ICSFSEDoD" <icsfsedod@gmail.com>
Sent:	6/26/2007 8:01:43 AM
To:	gpsstash@yahoogroups.com
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Subject:	Re: [GPSstash] Re: Geooglecaching

It's called the DELETE KEY. If you don't like the messages, DELETE THEM or UNSUBSCRIBE.

There is this thing called a subject, it gives you some clue as to what may be in the message. Select all the items with the subject you aren't interested in, and delete them. There, now you don't have to read them.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Martin
To: gpsstash@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSstash] Re: Geooglecaching

And a follow-up to Ron's comments, if someone (or a group) want to come up
with an open alternative to this site and can compete with his offering then
that is cool too.

What is everyone looking for in an alternative by the way? I am not a type
A, go out and kick butt kinda guy but this type of site does not seem to be
so incredibly complex to setup and maintain (but the devil is in the
details).

On 6/25/07, Ronald Gerth wrote:
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> developement and all and that GC.com has a very good database and is what
> is currently being used for us to enjoy our sport. A person (Jeremy)
> started a web site, developed it, sold membership to it, and now is selling
> ads to support it. I see nothing wrong with it, in fact I think it is
> great. I do not think he is any more obligated to let the database be open
> than any other business owner is obligated to open up his/her proprietory
> (spelled wrong, sorry) information. I always fall back on the fact that I
> speak with my checkbook when I am doing something like this. If he gets too
> crazy with the ads I will try to find another web site, if he starts to send
> out ads for things that I do not want my kids to have to deal with and that
> I have no interest in seeing (you know the type you get spam for them in
> your email box every single day) then I will move on, if the site crashes
> all the time or becomes
> unusable I will move on. Personally I think that if he took the time and
> effort and had the know how and skills to create GC.com he should be able
> to cash in on it in any way that does not drive we the users of his site
> away. A totally free site is gonna be a buggy, unsupported, unupgraded (I
> know that isn't a word) mess and is not something I want to use. Now don't
> get me wrong, if he comes out and says the new membership rate is way up
> there and I do not think that I will get my money's worth from a membership
> I will move on so I hope he doesn't do that. I see nothing wrong with a
> business owner trying to make a business pay for itself and hopefully kick
> out a little extra so that he can go out and do something crazy like pay his
> morgage, buy a new GPS, get a couple of gallons of milk or something along
> those line. I know that if I was in his shoes I would do the same thing.
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> --- On Mon 06/25, Neil R. Ormos < ormos-lists@n9nl.com > wrote:
> From: Neil R. Ormos [mailto: ormos-lists@n9nl.com]
> To: gpsstash@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:39:37 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: Re: [GPSstash] Re: Geooglecaching
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> >> America is to generate a profit for the owners.

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> >> I wonder what the response would be if suddenly

> >> the site shut down because it could no longer

> >> turn a profit. Or worse, it was sold to someone

> >> who does not fully appreciate geocaching.

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> > Don't confuse the goals of Groundspeak, Inc.,

> > with the needs of the geocaching hobby

> > itself. Open source and distributed processing

> > would be ways to address the risks you raise.

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> > wanted geocaching to have an open database, so

> > the costs and efforts and load could be

> > distributed, reducing the burden on any

> > individual and eliminating the risk of losing it

> > all if one company went bankrupt or turned

> > evil. [...]

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> Early days? Has the dream died already? :-)

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> Some of us still want an open, distributed

> database for cache data. Not just for

> reliability, security, and load balancing, but

> also to enable experimentation with lots of cool

> applications that can't be tried when the data is

> maintained in a private repository.

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